In heaven sin will be utterly destroyed in every elect soul. It includes, therefore, all the consequences of redemption. (6) Translate, For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace. Compare Romans 6:11. That meaning, therefore, cannot be allowed here. To be alive is not merely to bear the thought of religion, to assent to the truth of religion, to wish to be religious, but to be drawn towards it, to love it, to delight in it, to obey it. “But if we have died (according to Romans 6:6-7) with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, since we know,” etc. Этим он хочет научить нас тому, что христианам всю свою жизнь надлежит стремиться к сему обновлению. We “died” with Christ at one point in the past (aorist indicative). Compare Romans 6:11. In Christ’s case it cannot point to His separation from sin as a defiling and inward thing in Him when He died; for He knew no sin. Shall we persist in sin that grace may abound? Though everlasting be not excluded, yet a spiritual life is principally intended; we shall so live with Christ, as no more to return to dead works. For who can cherish the conviction that he stands in that holy communion of resurrection-life with Christ, if he should be compelled to doubt whether his Lord, though indeed risen, might not again fall a victim to death? Commentary on Romans 6:1-14 View Bible Text For many of us, Romans 6 is scripture we have turned to as we have developed a theology of baptism, debated the merits of immersion versus sprinkling based on the imagery of burial and resurrection, and to whom it should be applied. The argument is plain, but the exact force of live with him is doubtful. Romans 6:8 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 6:8, NIV: "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him." that our union with Christ is such that his death secures our deliverance from the penalty and power of sin, we believe we shall also live with him. Take, for instance, the case of a sick man, when food of a certain kind is presented to him, and there is no doubt what is meant by disgust. It was a truth believed by those whom he addressed, because taught by Paul and the other Apostles. A supposition, or presupposed condition; the thing supposed, is the baptized persons being dead with Christ; If we be dead with him, that is, by the exercise of daily mortification: If we have fellowship and communion with him in his death, that as he died for sin, we daily die unto sin: Then followeth, 2. Sin could no more condemn Him and bring Him to death, the penalty of the law, when by death He had exhausted the law’s penalty. And as we naturally become like that which we contemplate, it is to him an inexpressible satisfaction to reflect that by his very baptism and new birth he is himself there, dead with Christ and buried, in order that he might find in Him a better life; that the very strength and life of his baptism consists in his being thus made conformable to Christ's death. Swindoll's New Testament Insights (Insights on Romans 6-8) [Charles R. Swindoll] on Amazon.com. In consequence, by positively reckoning on the fact that we have died with Him, we can now be free from sin’s grip and power. 1 Corinthians 15:54-57). Romans 6:8 The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. We believe - All Christians. To be dead to sin is to be so minded that the atmosphere of sin oppresses, distresses, and stifles us,—that it is painful and unnatural for us to remain in it. We believe, i.e., we have a confidence, founded on the promise and revealed purpose of God. Greek. To this some add the thought of eternal life, others apply the phrase to this exclusively. All such as own the obligation which their baptismal vow and Christian profession puts upon them, and solemnly lays them under; namely, to keep the whole gospel, even as they who were circumcised were obliged to keep the whole law. Now if we be dead with Christ - If we be dead in a manner similar to what he was; if we are made dead to sin by his work, as he was dead in the grave; see the note at Romans 6:4. συζήσομεν αὐτῷ] must necessarily be understood, in accordance with the preceding and following context (Romans 6:11), of the ethical participation in the new everlasting life of Christ. Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more, reckon ye yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, not in his own person, but in that of Christ, his Representative, Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. The believer understands that the final object which God has in view in crucifying his old man (Romans 6:6) is to realize in him the life of the Risen One (Romans 6:8-9), and he enters actively into the divine thought. Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. But who are the persons that may be said to be dead with Christ? Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith ( πιστεύομεν). *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Their ‘death unto sin’ is parallel to this. The perpetuity of the life of Christ is one of the points in which our life is to be conformed to his. This does not imply any doubt about it, but is rather a taking it for granted: seeing we are dead with Christ by union with him, as our head and representative, and by communion with him in the benefits of his death, and being planted together in the likeness of it; or being dead to the law, sin, and the world, through the virtue and efficacy of Christ's death: we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. Ибо ежели возвращаемся мы к своим мерзостям, то отрицаемся Христа, участвовать в Котором не можем кроме как через обновление жизни, подобно тому, как и Сам Он ведет нетленную жизнь. Believers, [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. They die to its condemning power and its legal dominion, as thoroughly as if sin had slain them personally and the law had literally exacted its penalty from them. And thus, having been freed from the condemnation of sin by our being ‘accounted as righteous’, sin has lost its hold on us. Our animal powers cannot exist in all atmospheres; certain airs are poisonous, others life-giving. His statement, or expression of belief, is demonstration to a Christian. And therefore if we have died with Christ, we know and believe that we will also ‘live with Him’, we will share in His resurrection life both now, enjoying newness of life (Romans 6:4), and in eternity. It is nothing but the Cross of Christ without us and within us, which changes any one of us from being (as I may say) a devil, into an angel. Again, Paul's tremendous "if" is hurled into the consideration of man's salvation, as also in Romans 6:5, thus stressing the conditional nature of human redemption, one of the conditions being stressed in this verse, that of dying with Christ, in the sense of being baptized "into Christ," etc. As he lives, so we shall live in holiness. It becomes an article of our belief that we are to live with Christ. Instead, Romans 8:6-11 form a small part of a larger discourse Paul is having on the dichotomy between flesh and spirit. It is an article of our faith. For a fuller outworking of the idea of ‘living with Him’ as the Risen One in the present age see Ephesians 2:1-10 where Paul reveals to us something of life in the spiritual realm. Free from Sin, Slaves of Righteousness, Part 1 What is the Meaning of "Under Law" and "Under Grace"? Если же мы умерли для греха. To be dead to sin is to feel a disgust at it. “But if we died along with Christ, we believe that we shall live along with him, ‘But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him,’. So is it with spirits and souls: an unrenewed spirit could not live in heaven, he would die; an angel could not live in hell. ‘We believe.’ — Upon this it is useful to remark, that though the Apostle reasons and deduces from principles, yet we are to be cautious not to consider his doctrine as needing any other support but his own assertion. The aorist. Since the flesh does not submit to the Law, this is clear evidence that … sun. J. H. Newman, Parochial and Plain Sermons, vol. Spiritually His people live through a Resurrection. Death may touch the body, but in doing so only helps to perfect the life of the soul, and must resign its dominion over the body (cf. That is what ‘living with Him’ means while on earth. Now, if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him: Now — rather, since then — believers are one with Christ in His death, they have the certain prospect of for ever living with Him. Were we, namely, obliged to fear that Christ is still subject to the power of death,(1423) that his life is not a perfected life, in that case we should lack the adequate secure ground of faith for that πιστεύομεν κ. τ. λ(1424) The being assured that Christ liveth eternally and dieth no more (Acts 13:34), lends to our faith in our own moral communion of life with Him its basis and firm footing; without that knowledge this faith would be wanting in that which gives it legitimacy and guarantee. 2. Commentary on Romans 6:21-23 (Read Romans 6:21-23) The pleasure and profit of sin do not deserve to be called fruit. Therefore count yourself so and aspire after freedom from sin and life unto God. The Apostle speaks of it as a future life, which it is unnatural to interpret as signifying the believer’s spiritual life here, or as importing the continuation of it to the end of his course. In the full consciousness of it Paul says: ζῶ δὲ οὐκέτι ἐγὼ, ζῇ δὲ ἐν ἐμοὶ χριστός (Galatians 2:20). (a) Of death. Its festal and holy days are but shadows of eternity. Also live with him—Live in conformity with his character. Through His death and resurrection He has delivered us from ‘the house of bondage’, and from the slavery of sin, as we are accounted righteous and then share His resurrection life. We believe, etc. : see note on Romans 6:5: there is no conscious separation of ethical and transcendent life with Christ—to Paul it is one life. Having been conjoined with Him in His death, we are, and also will be, conjoined with Him in His resurrection (Romans 6:5), both now (Romans 8:10; John 5:24; Galatians 2:20) and in eternity (Romans 8:11; John 5:28-29). Dying, He passed forth from its dominion, having thereby expiated guilt and magnified the law. Death is the result of sin. The death is viewed as an event, not as a state. Both live unto God. Here physical resurrection is in view, as is clear from the future tense (cf. If he lives, we shall live also. Christ dieth no more. Rev., correctly, we died. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 6:19–20, Romans 6:12–14. They rise from the death which the law inflicts upon them when they die with Christ. "Out of the strong comes forth sweetness," out of death life; and to resign earthly hopes, pleasures, and advantages does require that the heart hath found something better, the treasure of new affections which it values more. Romans 6:8. John 14:19; John 15:5; Hebrews 7:25. 8.] A Access (Romans 5:1-11) – The benefits of justification N New Adam (Romans 5:12-21) – We are children of two “Adams” S Struggle w/ Sin (Romans 6:1-8:39) Struggle, sanctification, and victory. We are not to consider the apostle as merely running a parallel between the natural death and resurrection of Christ, and the spiritual death and resurrection of his people, as has already been remarked, but as showing that, in consequence of union to him in his death, we must die as he died, and live as he lives. Romans 6:8, ESV: "Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him." If we are united mystically with Christ in his death, we shall certainly live with him, i.e., we shall certainly partake of his life. Comp 1 Corinthians 15:25. We believe that we shall also live with him; be like him, through communications received from him, in living to God, even as the branch is like the vine. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. That is, we are sure that the consequences of his death are not merely negative, i.e., not simply deliverance from evil, moral and physical, but also a participation in his life. Romans 8:6, KJV: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." However some writers have taken this as referring to our life lived out here and now. A holy man is by nature subject to sin equally with others; but he is holy because he subdues, tramples on, chains up, imprisons, puts out of the way this law of sin, and is ruled by religious and spiritual motives. As his life is perpetual, it secures the continued supplies of life to all his members. The apostle here recalls the sentiment of Romans 6:5, in order to continue that train of thought (see the note at Romans 6:5). chap. Planted in the likeness of His death, they are so also in the likeness of His resurrection, rise with Him to walk in newness of life. A Sermon on Romans 5:6-8 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Besides, we should expect, in the case of the assumed course of thought, an οὖν instead of the δέ in Romans 6:8. This is not confined, however, to the present life, but as Christ lives forever, so the apostle goes on to show that we shall. Swindoll's New Testament Insights (Insights on Romans 6-8) ... all of which means you can read this book as a serious commentary on Romans or for general reading (rather than for study purposes etc). (2) A life of sin is unacceptable because our death to sin changes our relationship to sin. Why should not this privilege be yours? 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. But hereafter it will be otherwise. That the life here mentioned is the life after the resurrection, as in verse 5th, appears from the phraseology. Romans 8:10-11). Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. God’s *blessings for the *Jews 9:1-5. v1 I speak the truth in *Christ. These may be said to be dead and crucified with Christ, having by the assistance of his Spirit, in some measure crucified the flesh with its inordinate affections and lusts; and if they here live like him, so they shall also live with him: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. As a tree cannot live and grow, cannot bear flowers and fruit, and expand itself towards heaven, unless it be first rooted and buried in the ground, so neither can the love of God in the soul, unless that which is earthly be dead and buried with Christ in His death. [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. Vow if we died with Christ. As death has no more dominion over him, there is no ground of apprehension that our supplies of life will be cut off. suzao; only here, 2 Corinthians 7:3. Romans 6:8 But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him; we be dead with = we died together with (Greek. To be dead with Christ is to hate and turn from sin, and to live with Him is to have our hearts and minds turned towards God and heaven. This thought would only keep us aloof from that faith and make it a moral impossibility for us, since it would set before us the prospect of a similar perishing of the new life which we had gained. As God does in Genesis 3, the apostle threatens these Christians with God's utter abhorrence of sin and His unwavering promise to judge it.. Paul later illustrates this process of judgment to the Hebrews: Now (continuing the train of argument) if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also (the future as in Romans 6:5,—because the life with Him though here begun, is not here completed: and the πιστεύομεν used more of dogmatic belief, than of trust, though the latter meaning is not altogether absent) live with Him. Dogmatic belief rather than trust, though the latter is not excluded. There is no need of such straining, when the obvious meaning is true and most important. There we learn that God, having raised Jesus up with an act of mighty power (Ephesians 1:19 onwards), has in the riches of His grace also made us alive in Him and has raised us up and seated us with Him in the spiritual realm (Ephesians 2:4-6). We cannot separate forgiveness of sin from the spiritual life of walking daily with the Lord.. if [since] we died . There we share His throne (as He also shares His Father’s throne - Revelation 3:21). we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. Freedom from Sin; Life in God. Now, I suppose most persons called Christians do not go further than this—to wish to be religious, and to think it right to be religious, and to feel a respect for religious men; they do not get so far as to have any sort of love for religion. … So I want you to run around that cir… We shall live, συζήσομεν, the future, referring not to what is to happen hereafter, but to what is the certain consequence of our union with Christ. On the other hand, consider how pleasant a meal is to the hungry, or some enlivening odour to the faint; how refreshing the air is to the languid, or the brook to the weary and thirsty; and you will understand the sort of feeling which is implied in being alive with Christ, alive to religion, alive to the thought of heaven. The spiritual life of His people is as undying as His own: its vitality is unquenchable; death cannot hurt it, or end it, or have dominion over it. J. Williams, The Epistles and Gospels, vol. To be alive with Christ is to be so minded that the atmosphere of heaven refreshes, enlivens, stimulates, invigorates us. For whilst what has been described with regard to dying with Christ in Romans 6:3-7 has been largely ‘positional’, although including within it the conception of the ‘death’ of our old life, it has been reinforced as regards our rising with Christ by the life of the Spirit. At the same time it is not to be explained as if an ἀεί or the like stood beside συζήσομεν (without falling away), as is done by Tholuck; compare Theophylact. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. ‘Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him.’. Close with the offer of mercy and enter by faith into union with Christ in His death, resurrection, and life. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. But γάρ in Romans 6:7 indicates its connection with what goes before, so that it is only with the δέ in Romans 6:8 that a new thought is introduced. Christ ‘died unto sin’; we ‘died,’ and are ‘to reckon ourselves dead unto sin.’ ‘Died unto sin’ is not equivalent to ‘died for sin.’ These are not convertible terms, and we cannot ‘die for sin’ as Christ did. Rev., correctly, we died. Reference: Romans 6:8.—Clergyman's Magazine, vol. Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith (πιστεύομεν). 2. Romans 6:8 f. Carrying onward the discussion by the metabatic δέ; and thereby passing from the negative side of the having died with Christ as proved in personal consciousness ( τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, Romans 6:6) in. Now if we be dead with Christ - According to what is stated in the preceding verses. This communion of life is the ἐν χριστῷ and χριστὸν ἐν ἡμῖν εἶναι. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if … Romans 8 is the pinnacle chapter in Paul’s most formidable epistle. also live with = live also with. The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. I am not lying. 8. As pictured by baptism, the crucifixion with Christ of Romans 6:6. a 2 How can we who died to sin yet live in it? But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. We know what is meant by disgust. CHAPTER 6. Then I came back to the kids, and I said, “Now, children, I want you to follow in my footsteps. There, he gave the analogy that the fellowship of Christians form one … Of course not! Our having died with Him means that we need no longer live in the bondage of sin. The aorist. That is the glory of our new life in Christ. 8.Dead with Christ—Dead to a world of sin, as Christ was dead to the world of external things. How enlightening is the fact that, after all Paul had written of faith in preceding chapters, when it comes down to speaking of the Christian's justification and his hope of living eternally with Christ above, it is not faith which is mentioned, but dying with Christ. Dead we are with Christ by baptism, by His power and grace, and dead we must also be in the habits of our new life, in order that such Divine life may be continued in Him; and all this from the most intimate reference to Him. A Liberating Commentary on Romans 6, 7 and 8. by. 1. See particularly on the 5th verse ( Romans 6:5; (note)). Nov 26, 2000. The Apostle now resumes his main thought. iv., p. 87. He proceeded to explain the effect that our union with Him has on our problem with death. That is, that the effect of his death is to destroy the power of sin; and the result of his living is the communication and preservation of Divine life to all who are connected with him. In my opinion, the Best All-Around commentary on Romans is the second edition of Douglas Moo’s 1996 commentary on Romans in the New International Commentary on the New Testament (Eerdmans, 2018). For if we roll again in our own filth, we deny Christ; of whom we cannot be the participators except through newness of life, inasmuch as he lives an incorruptible life. So with His people. Romans 8:6, ESV: "For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace." Ибо ежели должны они являть собою образ Христов в умерщвлении плоти и духе жизни (Через оживотворение), а первое продолжается бесконечно, то и второе с необходимостью должно длиться вечно. Dead with Christ; in the sense above explained-one with him in sympathy, desire, and effort as to the object of his death, the deliverance of his people from sin. So His people, risen with Him, are alive unto God, with a life of holy service, in the cause of righteousness, are priests unto God, are subduing the world to Him as kings. Observe here, 1. Shame came into the world with sin, and is still the certain effect of it. For as we have already seen (Romans 6:3-5) Christ did not just die. This instruction refutes the doctrine of eternal security.He writes this letter to converted Romans, those who had already accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. πιστεύομεν] expresses, not confidence in the divine aid (Fritzsche), or in the divine promise (Baumgarten-Crusius), or in God not leaving His work of grace in us unfinished (Philippi); but simply the being convinced of our συζήσομεν αὐτῷ; in so far, namely, as the having died with Christ is, seeing that He has risen and dieth no more, in the consciousness of faith the necessary premiss, and thus the ground for belief as to our becoming alive with Him. The Christian dwells in continual contemplation on the Cross and death of Christ; it is there his heart and affections are fixed; it is there he finds a remedy against sin and strength against temptation. 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